Once a leaker, always a leaker, often a leaker,” Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Fox News, amid a deepening controversy stemming from his use of Signal.

Brian Kilmeade, one of the co-hosts of Fox & Friends, got things started during the interview by accidentally referring to Hegseth as the “former” defense secretary before correcting himself. Kilmeade asked Hegseth about “his thoughts” on new reporting from the New York Times that he had a second Signal chat where he discussed highly sensitive military information with about a dozen people like his wife,